Comment by Zambyte

7 hours ago

By Genie specifically? Or by generative AI in general?

If you mean world models like Genie,I don't know. If you mean the latter, I have definitely used software that I have enjoyed that I do not believe would have been possible without generative AI.

Fluxer is the first Discord competitor that when you show to someone they can't say "well Discord does X better", and it was largely made using AI.

Herdr is designed for AI usage, but I actually really like it even for just normal terminal multiplexing. It was surely made with a lot of AI.

I have seen people make incredible things at my work that have actually solved multi-year long pain points that we've never had the resources to address before.

I have used AI to patch and revive a bunch of small services like chat bots or web services and such that I had made and had decayed into failure over the years.

Sure, it's easy to point at people using AI as a megaphone for their lack of care. But I don't think it's impossibly hard to find people doing good things with it either.

> Fluxer is the first Discord competitor that when you show to someone they can't say "well Discord does X better", and it was largely made using AI.

Didn't know that before, but considering its abysmal failures to scale, yeah in hindsight it does make a lot of sense. (one of) My group(s) tried to move and we came back to Discord rather quickly.

Software might be the exception, but I think some skepticism is still warranted.

When software is hard there's a kind of filter; a good piece of software means a human/team behind it with grit and care and user empathy. You can have some* confidence in the continued stability and maintenance of the software. (*relatively speaking, and with huge error bars).

Without knowing the details of Fluxer, if someone tells me about a vibecoded Discord clone, my immediate thoughts are like: - how much thought and care went into this? - how much work from Discord has been cannibalized? - will the authors be around next week to keep maintaining and making improvements and thinking deeply about their users?

I have also seen a lot of fantastic demos and stuff with AI coding. I use AI coding all day. I just think there's a weird gap still, where code and images and text are all "cheap", but none of this has translated into anything I personally use or care about.