Comment by lxgr

14 hours ago

> Trains are still not able to assess properly where they are [...]

Isn't the ability to do so the basis of operation for e.g. the German LZB train protection system, which has been around since the 1960s?

If you mean that train protection systems don't (exclusively) rely on self-reported positions, your statement makes a bit more sense, but even that is changing with e.g. newer ETCS levels which do rely on self-positioning more and more.

I should have written that comment quite differently, it took a while for me to understand how it is read.

I did not say "train systems are ...", I said "trains are ...". This is referring to e.g. that odometry based on wheels results in a drift. GNSS is to imprecise and unreliable. I'm aware that you simply use balises, that's what I meant with "markers in the track". However that's based on the infrastructure again, so it's again not trains on their own.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=50293093

It was simply supposed to be an example how GPS sounds like it should easily solve a problem, but does not without additional measures, that then do not need GPS anymore.