Comment by ajasmin

8 hours ago

I haven't used these in a long while.

Is this a fork? What's Cuis' main selling point compared Squeak and Pharo?

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edfsadfer  8 hours ago

Cuis is an environment derived from Squeak as I understand it with all the "clutter" removed. So it is really a cut-down Squeak. Just as Pharo was a cut-down Squeak originally.

For me it was easier and quicker to get something done in Cuis than in any other Smalltalk (Squeak, Pharo, VA, Dolphin).

isr  7 hours ago

The history link gives details, but if you want a quick analogy:

Pharo & Cuis both forked from squeak at roughly the same time

Squeak = Debian

Pharo = Arch

Cuis = Alpine

Cuis has rigorously simplified, so its much easier to explore & understand the system - because there's less of it

Cuis's re-engineering of morphic is really quite brilliant. Everything is hardware accelerated vector graphics. EVEN THE FONTS are drawn that way. And they remain crisp even when zoomed (in or out) & rotated.

Pharo does have some cool stuff though. I'd love to see fuel (object serialization) & soil (a fully oo database) ported to cuis. And the big one - seaside

But its not an either-or situation. 99% 9f what you learn & do in one is applicable to the other. But if you're starting out, I would definitely recommend cuis (not implying that you wouldn't necessarily stick with it)

  • frou_dh  2 hours ago

    Is the rendering in Cuis really hardware-accelerated? I agree it looks great but think it's all software-rendered using the CPU.

  • ssivark  7 hours ago

    Is the development experience compatible with modern AI-assisted workflows? Coding agents have drastically reduced the entry barrier for playing with software projects, and I can think of some fun ideas for Smalltalk things I've been curious about.