Comment by injidup

4 days ago

This is probably only relevant if you go over the 150 engineers putting you in the enterprise bucket and forcing you to pay by the token rather than the subsidized Claude code plans. If you need 150 engineers all with frontier model accounts maybe you are doing something wrong ;)

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kasey_junk  4 days ago

If you want zero data retention you have to go api only.

  • traceroute66  4 days ago

    > If you want zero data retention you have to go api only.

    Time for the daily reminder that ZDR is a pinky-promise.

    ZDR is a contract clause. That means:

        - It is subject to the rest of the contract, e.g. the good old "subject to lawful request or court order" carve-out clauses
    - It is subject to random provider exceptions, e.g. see Anthropic and Fable.
    - You have no way of verifying it beyond "trust me bro".

    Basically you the only options are:

         - Run your own hardware which is obviously the ideal situation
     - If you can't run your own hardware, use confidential computing which runs the AI in secure enclave, e.g. Privatemode[1] (Germany) or Tinfoil[2] (US)

    [1] https://www.privatemode.ai/ [2] https://tinfoil.sh/

    • solyin  4 days ago

      How do you verify that privatemode.ai or tinfoil.sh are actually running the AI in a secure enclave? If you're the untrusting type, there's no way for them to prove they're not faking it being run on a fake secure enclave. If you're the really untrusting trusting type, "Reflections on Trusting Trust" should be your guidebook on why local hardware won't save you either.

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    • epolanski  4 days ago

      Which is why everybody buys tokens from Amazon or Microsoft or Google, not anthropic or OpenAI.

      Because you already have your BI and mails on these providers.

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