Comment by jeroenhd

20 hours ago

It works fine, has broad support for many packages from Canonical, has well over a decade of kernel and core program updates (up to 15 years for free up to five computers with a personal account!) and is often the target distribution for third-party packages. Most guides for professional software target either Red Hat or Ubuntu, and many driver packages for platforms like Arch are just the Ubuntu .debs that are extracted and shoved back into a different format.

If you need to run a five year old version of [PHP|Apache|Nginx|Caddy|whatever], Ubuntu is a solid bet. None of that "we need to update our configuration to a new format to solve a criticial CVE issue" nonsense, for much longer than Debian is offering free labour.

Debian has its own flaws, like its controversial patches, lack of real LTS releases, and lack of business contracts guaranteeing support directly from the source if you're a business.

I have yet to encounter any issues with either sudo-rs or their coreutils rewrite. From what I've come to expect from utcc.utoronto.ca, I'm not surprised they're using some obscure feature that Canonical chose to remove, though. I'm surprised they're even running Ubuntu.

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fn-mote  20 hours ago

> I have yet to encounter any issues with either sudo-rs

I feel like this is just ignoring the issues raised in the post, or saying “well, I didn’t use those features so I don’t care”.

You personally not caring is ok. The distro not caring is generating some hate.

  • jeroenhd  20 hours ago

    I'm answering the question "why do people use Ubuntu".

    I'm also of the opinion that sometimes change is good. The Linux world is held back by design decisions and quirks coded into ancient operating systems that have long since died.

    Luckily for the people on old Ubuntu versions, Ubuntu 24.04 without the sudo-rs rewrite will be supported until May 2034 or May 2039 if you pay up. The sudo-rs people have about 7-8 years to fix any problems that might exist before you have to think about doing `sudo do-release-upgrade`.

Symbiote  20 hours ago

In my day-to-day use of Ubuntu 26 "LTS", I've found bugs with chown, sudo, date, ls and sort.

  • MaKey  19 hours ago

    Did you report them with ubuntu-bug?

    • yallpendantools  16 hours ago

      Honest question, is it worth it for an average user to file reports?

      The first time I tried this was the last time I tried. It was ca. 2012 on an Acer laptop that I personally configured to dual-boot. My memory is not to be trusted but

      - the biggest problem for me was that it asked for a core dump/logfile, which I agreed to, but for some reason or another it could not produce/extract said debug info and I got stuck in a loop of whoopsie trying and failing.

      - smaller grievance (I might be wrong) is that I had to create some account (Launchpad?) in order to report the bug. Why can't it be anonymous?!

      Everytime I turned this Acer laptop on, there will be 2-3 such prompts from Ubuntu that something report-worthy went wrong. You learn to blend it out like the cookie consent dialogs but still annoying. Plus, everything is still perfectly usable so it does seem like the OS is just making a mountain out of a molehill.

    • Symbiote  9 hours ago

      I reported either on Ubuntu's tracker, or the uutils GitHub, unless they'd already been reported.

      The chown bug took 18 months to be fixed. The ls bug isn't fixed after 6 months. Sort was fixed in about 3 months.

      There are hundreds of open bugs: https://github.com/uutils/coreutils/issues — the project clearly wasn't suitable for an LTS release.

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