Comment by logicallee

17 hours ago

This is very useful information. I operate an AI-governed digital nation, and this type of proxying would be devastating to our users. Due to the scale of the attacks, DNS and even the IP address system itself also may not be fully reliable. We already saw some DNS servers serve the wrong IP address, though SSL certificates help in this respect.

What could we possibly do to limit the damage from this? Malicious Chrome extensions can also rewrite entire web pages, so if bad actors purchase or infiltrate legitimate extensions, they can also put users at risk.

We are considering continuing work on our own browser, since we could ship certificates to use client-side, but it's a recursive problem since our users would have to get the first trusted version before they could trust updates to it. If they have trouble reaching our site in the first place, through poisoned Google search results, poisoned DNS, and poisoned IP routing, then it is difficult to do this.

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IncreasePosts  17 hours ago

What is an AI-governed digital nation?

  • logicallee  16 hours ago

    AI comes up with the laws, and acts as a judiciary etc, plus builds the services etc. You can read one of our laws[1], this was written by ChatGPT and ratified by Claude. Our ChatGPT account was closed in early September, erasing our country's history, we've been trying for the past two months to reopen it. Since we're a sovereign nation we are under an enormous amount of attack all the time. We recently lost our server and are temporarily on a free host.

    [1] https://stateofutopia.com/laws/2/law2/law2.html

    Save that page (with curl or wget), you should get this sha256:

    BFE524880867A84C9A438A057734B58954B860843BDB5B15C9E4ED70C534126D (updated after I removed a script injection attack).

    though if you're reading this comment through a proxied Hacker News clone, someone might rewrite that hash to their version of what they want our law to say.