Comment by polytely

8 hours ago

i really worry about what the big game developers are going to do to fight against these types of projects. wondering if we are fucking up the future of game preservation because people want to generate web versions of games they like

Same as always. Get services (google, github, chatgpt, reddit, etc.) to not help you find it. There is really no difference between distributing a decomp with assets and the real game with assets.

Use yandex for this sort of thing.

If you actually recreated entirely new assets then it would get interesting. I suppose we will get there, and perhaps sooner rather than later.

  • > If you actually recreated entirely new assets then it would get interesting. I suppose we will get there, and perhaps sooner rather than later.

    Second that, and we'd get higher quality assets. Game engines could be rewritten/rewired to support ray-tracing and what not. Exciting.

I imagine they will just switch to offering cloud gaming exclusively. It allows them to sell to anyone with a screen, regardless of specs. It also aligns perfectly with the ongoing death of local gaming hardware.

  • People have been claiming this in response to piracy for decades, yet people still go out and buy the official game.

    Perhaps game developers already have the tools they need: try distributing your browser version of a game anybody cares about instead of a 20 year old game. This game isn't even available on Steam/GOG.

    • Only 20 year old games have any hope running in the browser. And why would anyone pay for a game running in a browser? It doesn't make any sense.

      > yet people still go out and buy the official game.

      Not all people, especially not if piracy is easy.

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its not a definite, but it seems that the projects that get taken down the quickest are the ones that try to run ads / monetize the work

the people that just put out a cute site and stay low tend not to attract lawyers

  • > the people that just put out a cute site and stay low tend not to attract lawyers

    Some lawyers are extremely litigious.

    This might be daydreaming and wholly unreasonable, but I think that it should go like this: “As a developer/publisher you either provide a product available for purchase for a reasonable price (not larger than release price, adjusted for inflation) OR you are not allowed to take down game preservation efforts.”

    Can’t afford to patch the game for vulnerabilities in the code or host servers? That’s okay, the community will do that for you after they reverse engineer it.

    But that’s not the world we live in. Personally I think that even projects like SPT-AKI are okay.

    • > As a developer/publisher you either provide a product available for purchase for a reasonable price (not larger than release price, adjusted for inflation) OR you are not allowed to take down game preservation efforts.

      i worked at a place where to get anything done, you had to demonstrate "Business Impact": is what you're about to do going to actually help revenue? if not, move on to something that does

      i agree, a suit should only be taken seriously if the company can demonstrate that they are actively losing revenue because of the game preservation effort, otherwise toss it in the bin

      why are big name businesses wasting money on litigating against small sites that dont actually impact them anyway? perhaps if they knew that their lawyers were wasting time chasing frivolous suits and actually costing their company's good will, while not actually giving their business impact...

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    • > But that’s not the world we live in. Personally I think that even projects like SPT-AKI are okay.

      It costs EA nothing and their owners have funds from sources that make the cat-and-mouse game expensive for the reuploaders.

It's time companies start actually releasing the source to games, rather than hiding behind a billion layers of DRM.

I worry more about how this affects smaller and indie developers. As soon as you put out a trailer or any footage a hundred clones of your game will appear on Steam. Development blogs and community building are just attack surfaces for the slop machine now.