Comment by Daniel_Newby

Perhaps. Infosec is critically important to our society, and HN appears to be responsible for radicalizing a large fraction of practitioners. It is not even a radicalization of substance, but collateral damage from a forgettable unrelated political campaign.

Now it is just about too late. For the next 10-20 years, national infosec policy will be driven by the radicals' memory of their principled stand against the NSA "revelations". "Abuses" will be "curtailed" without regard for legitimate security needs.

The is no elsewhere to reserve this discussion for. If HN is credulous enough to believe staged CNN sound bites, there is no hope for other venues.