Step #4 (get your friends to use it) is really hard to do. I tried and failed with my friend group. If there's one non-technical user in the group (or one who is tremendously attached to their Hangouts chat history), you're probably doomed to failure.
i've had limited success, one factor that helped was me going cold turkey on the alternatives. also you define your own success, gaining a monopoly is rather a high standard!
We apparently have quite different friends. Removing myself from Hangouts means that I get information either in person, or through email, if at all.
I'm currently relying on the Signal rework of TextSecure to get most of us off of Hangouts: the big barrier to adoption has been easy-to-configure clients that work on Android, iOS, and desktop and sync message history amongst clients.
If you won't drop the other networks there's no need for them to join your server, your still on the networks they're already using. Only you can change that.
I would like to believe the same. The prosody folks are awesome btw (as an alternative to ejabberd).
But there are still open issues. One big one, compared to all the FB/Google/etc. offerings is the ability to have a usable chat log. Current xmpp implementations/standards are more or less useless if you happen to use more than one device and want to look something up/want to see what you wrote to your brother yesterday, on your desktop, while looking at your phone.
Mandatory extensions in my world:
- Stream Management (easy)
- Carbon Copies (easy)
- MAM/Message Archive (described above, hard, haven't found a way yet)
Step #4 (get your friends to use it) is really hard to do. I tried and failed with my friend group. If there's one non-technical user in the group (or one who is tremendously attached to their Hangouts chat history), you're probably doomed to failure.
i've had limited success, one factor that helped was me going cold turkey on the alternatives. also you define your own success, gaining a monopoly is rather a high standard!
We apparently have quite different friends. Removing myself from Hangouts means that I get information either in person, or through email, if at all.
I'm currently relying on the Signal rework of TextSecure to get most of us off of Hangouts: the big barrier to adoption has been easy-to-configure clients that work on Android, iOS, and desktop and sync message history amongst clients.
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This.
If you won't drop the other networks there's no need for them to join your server, your still on the networks they're already using. Only you can change that.
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I would like to believe the same. The prosody folks are awesome btw (as an alternative to ejabberd).
But there are still open issues. One big one, compared to all the FB/Google/etc. offerings is the ability to have a usable chat log. Current xmpp implementations/standards are more or less useless if you happen to use more than one device and want to look something up/want to see what you wrote to your brother yesterday, on your desktop, while looking at your phone.
Mandatory extensions in my world: - Stream Management (easy) - Carbon Copies (easy) - MAM/Message Archive (described above, hard, haven't found a way yet)
Mam is exactly what I am waiting for too.
It should be in prosody 0.10 [1] (not stable yet) but I did not yet have a change to test it.
(And XEP-0313 is still quite new and experimental)
[1]: https://code.google.com/p/prosody-modules/wiki/mod_mam