Comment by brc

11 years ago

Just because you might not like cleaning, it's a stretch to imagine that casual cleaners don't like their job.

Saying someone on by low wage job is 'modern slavery' is pretty obtuse when real life actual slavery is happening right now in parts of the world.

yes, maybe I am wrong, but in my opinion, there isn't a SINGLE person in the world that would like to make a living cleaning the mess of others.

>Saying someone on by low wage job is 'modern slavery' is pretty obtuse when real life actual slavery is happening right now in parts of the world.

This is exactly the reason I used "modern slavery".

  • I've done a lot of cleaning and as a job I generally liked it. You have a set task, you see the result, and when you are done you are done. It can be quite rewarding. The pay sucked, but that's far from slavery.

    • Interesting. Although I could afford it, I never allowed myself to hire cleaners because I refused to explore a person to clean my own mess. My mess, my responsibility, I clean it. It's interesting to know that people would willingly work with cleaning even if they have other options.

  • "Modern slavery" does not include "low paid menial work".

    Modern spavery exists in several different forms: actual slavery, bonded labour, and forced labour.

    Employment compliant with US law is unlikely to meet those definitions. (Although children working in US tobacco farms is legal and problematic).

    http://www.theguardian.com/global-development/2013/apr/03/mo...

    http://www.antislavery.org/english/slavery_today/what_is_mod...

    Maybe you meant "wage slave"? There's probably better terms, becase as soon as you mention "slave" people will think you mean slavery, and "wage slaves" are not in any sense slaves.

  • And yet my mom runs a cleaning business and quite enjoys the satisfaction she gets from the work.

    So yes: you're wrong.

Just because no single person owns you, still doesn't mean you are working for basic subsistence in slavery-like conditions. And others knowing that can, and will abuse you because of that.

  • Sure. Does any work that complies with current US law meet that bar though?

    Children working on tobacco farms maybe do count. (And even if they're not slaves it's still a big problem).

    But to suggest that domestic cleaners working for Holejoy os pretty insulting to the people who are working in illegal slave like conditions in the US.