Comment by mhardcastle

2 years ago

This goes massively against the consensus of experts in this field. The modal AI researcher believes that "high-level machine intelligence", roughly AGI, will be achieved by 2047, per the survey below. Given the rapid pace of development in this field, it's likely that timelines would be shorter if this were asked today.

https://www.vox.com/future-perfect/2024/1/10/24032987/ai-imp...

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ein0p  2 years ago

I am in the field. The consensus is made up by a few loudmouths. No serious front line researcher I know believes we’re anywhere near AGI, or will be in the foreseeable future.

  • comp_throw7  2 years ago

    So the researchers at Deepmind, OpenAI, Anthropic, etc, are not "serious front line researchers"? Seems like a claim that is trivially falsified by just looking at what the staff at leading orgs believe.

    • ein0p  2 years ago

      Apparently not. Or maybe they are heavily incentivized by the hype cycle. I'll repeat one more time: none of the currently known approaches are going to get us to AGI. Some may end up being useful for it, but large chunks of what we think is needed (cognition, world model, ability to learn concepts from massive amounts of multimodal, primarily visual, and almost entirely unlabeled, input) are currently either nascent or missing entirely. Yann LeCun wrote a paper about this a couple of years ago, you should read it: https://openreview.net/pdf?id=BZ5a1r-kVsf. The state of the art has not changed since then.

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enragedcacti  2 years ago

I don't understand how you got 2047. For the 2022 survey:

    - "How many years until you expect: - a 90% probability of HLMI existing?" 
    mode: 100 years
    median: 64 years

    - "How likely is it that HLMI exists: - in 40 years?"
    mode: 50%
    median: 45%

And from the summary of results: "The aggregate forecast time to a 50% chance of HLMI was 37 years, i.e. 2059"