Comment by ahmeneeroe-v2

4 months ago

>clean streets, no homeless, practically zero crime

The US regressed on this heavily in the last generation.

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postflopclarity  4 months ago

no it didn't. crime rates have been steadily declining for over 30 years

  • nradov  4 months ago

    The only crime rate data which is really reliable is the murder rate. This peaked in 1991 and has been generally stable (not steadily declining) since 1999, with a spike during the COVID-19 pandemic. Almost all murders do get reported and counted.

    https://www.consumershield.com/articles/murder-rate-by-year

    I don't trust the statistics for lesser crimes because so many of the victims never file a report. In many cities the police now subtly discourage people from filing reports because they don't want to deal with the paperwork or have their statistics look bad. But I think we can generally use the murder rate as a proxy for the overall level of criminality.

  • ahmeneeroe-v2  4 months ago

    Nope, sorry I don't believe this. I lived in Seattle for 15-years and while the city was never exactly hard on crime, I watched the post-2016 descent into madness and then the post-covid sprint into being actively pro-crime.

    I watched it start in the downtown area and then spread into residential neighborhoods, and the homeless/criminal element become more physically aggressive too. "Public Intoxication" also increased except instead of drunks it was fentanyl users.

    Car crimes similarly went from simple opening of unlocked doors, to smashing of windows to grab bags or cutting out catalytic converters.

    Public transit went from bearable to unusable (though this might be better now, I don't have firsthand knowledge anymore since I stopped using it during the decline).

  • mcast  4 months ago

    I agree, but a lot of petty/non-violent crime isn't enforced or reported anymore.