Comment by senthil_rajasek
18 hours ago
I think the author intended the title to be,
"Google Ads is dead, Where do I promote my business now?"
When I hear "Google" I assume search, oof (sigh of relief).
They mention running ads on tiktok or instagram but no mention of youtube ads...
Also, In my own experience for my business ( also entertainment) I have found reddit ads to be useful.
So my next steps would be,
Reddit Ads
Youtube Ads
Instagram Ads
Increase AI Visiblity
[Edit: Added Instagram Ads, from a different comment]
I’d suggest that the title should be, “Competition for Google AdWords is so strong that unsophisticated advertisers can no longer get a good return. Where do I promote my business now?”
He had presumably used it for 10 years successfully. Surely he gained some expertise over that time period.
He probably just got a new competitor in the space. Easy to see good returns on online ad spend when all traffic just goes to you by default.
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Nobody goes there any more. It's too crowded.
-- Yogi Berra
I have a feeling that it is mostly unsophisticated advertisers bidding up the price of AdWords.
As someone who leads large parts of ad tech for TikTok and worked at Google for 10 years, it’s the K shaped economy that is pressing SMBs out. Pure and simple
Everyone can make up some complex theories but I see it in the numbers every day. Spend distribution is now k shaped and SMBs simply can’t compete at top end performance levels.
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it's not "competition"
it's bots creating too high noise-to-ratio for feedback loop
> Also, In my own experience for my business ( also entertainment) I have found reddit ads to be useful.
Reddit is very hit or miss depending on your target audience.
Depending on your Reddit target audience, a lot of people could have adblock installed. They might be loyal to communities that have approved vendor lists where everyone parrots the same vendor recommendations back and forth in every thread, so not being part of that game means you're left out. In some niches, the subreddit moderators have a financial relationship with vendors and they'll put their weight into swaying every conversation away from competitors.
For other niches, none of this applies and Reddit can be a good ad destination. It really depends
100%. My business is in the smart home space. I peruse various smart home subreddit communities, and they all have a few brands that are aggressively celebrated on Reddit. Market research, financial disclosures, and other public data largely indicates that these brands are not all that popular, especially in the biggest-spend markets.
We don’t find Reddit ads valuable.
Let's be honest, most "Reddit marketing" isn't about on-site ads, it's about posting UGC that promotes your product in some way.
Thank you. This is a perfect example of clickbait. I trusted the HN crowd, clicked the link, and immediately realized the trap. I'm upset at how effective it is. And also commend the author for publishing an article specifically engineered to waste the viewers time.
Based on personal experience, I would be wary on spending much on Reddit ads without carefully measuring the results. Some real world data:
https://successfulsoftware.net/2025/08/11/what-i-learned-spe...
I think he's aimed in the right direction with the observation about short videos.
I tried to load his website. It took a full minute to come up. Maybe that's the HN hug of death or something, but this is surely issue #1 to resolve.
Beyond that I would ask whether targeting the "young'uns" directly is the correct strategy. His business is party entertainment, kids' birthday parties could be the biggest slice of that, but the kid isn't the purchasing decisionmaker, and there are all these other opportunities (like corporate events) too.
And then I would consider whether paying for ads in shorts is the right or only way to approach the world of video. The thing about video is it's huge, lucrative, and eating up more of people's time every year. People are moving from the text Internet, to watching videos. I would think given the nature of the business this guy has raw footage which can be turned into entertaining videos, or can produce it pretty quickly. I'm increasingly surprised by how much some people can earn on Youtube, by creating videos that also function as marketing collateral for their business. He will ultimately need to geotarget to get customers, so yeah that's probably paid ads, but a good YouTube channel would build authority, making sales easier to close, and might also make him more money than you'd expect via ad revenue.
My entertainment website typically gets 10-100 visitors per day, yesterday it was more like 1000 per hour. The only reason it's still online is because of CloudFlare CDN!
My content is best live and in person but you are right, will be concentrating more on video content for yt and others going forward
It loaded in far less than a second for me, almost immediate.
Hmm, the URL appears to have changed since I commented. It was originally a .co.za. Now it's fast.
Perhaps there was a CDN issue (I am in a country that is definitely not material to his business)
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It's been some years since I've had to put ads on the web, but I found Reddit ads insanely effective. Really, Google ads have been dead for a long time. I found them hardly effective at all since maybe 2011.
A surgeon in our family got basically all his (private) clients from Google. Spend was multiple k per month. If you consider that one surgery brings in 7k in revenue, then those numbers actually make sense. He's retired now but did this up to 2y ago.
This is a Kshaped example that’s solid. Some SMBs can afford per keyword large spend in focused high reward arenas. The rest can’t do anything.
> Really, Google ads have been dead for a long time.
For you perhaps. I work with a huge amount of businesses whose profits are still driven almost entirely by them, who have seen not even a blip and make money hand over fist.
I wish I knew the difference. I’ve ran or been close to tens of businesses over the last 20 years and we’ve always paid the Google tax, but I’m not sure it’s ever had a positive ROI.
I forgot YouTube has ads, thanks.
I do occasionally post (free) on Reddit, it's not that big here though
By "here" I think you mean SA. Reddit is big in the U.S.
Reddits been building up its user base in India the past few years.[1]
I’m permabanned on Reddit so I only consume via the default not logged in feed and I run into some comments in what I assume is Hindi(might be marathi or one of the multiple other languages on the continent) or posts from subreddits explicitly about some aspect of india
[1] https://www.thehindubusinessline.com/catalyst/inside-reddits...
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Occasionally post reddit content or occasionally post reddit ads?
content, in r/Durban - gets a few views
for personal, I'm on lemmy now
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I see paid ads as a short-term goal; the business seems to be local, so people should find this when looking for this specific service in their city.
Hm good point but if one were to try to reach visibility via let's say contacting the creators themselves or making reddit showcases themselves?
I am not sure what might work better, sponsorships or Ads. Of course some are definitely icky sponsorships but if one were to align with small youtubers who develop their own things and you enjoy their content and there might be an overlap etc.
I personally have an ad blocker so I don't really know what might work for. I guess organic marketing? But how does one achieve it?
Any good books / ideas on more sustainable forms of marketing aside from paying the large corporations a sort of land tax basically?
for my life, I haven't found ads useful at all, so I block them
Any suggestions for local business? Things that operate only within a specified area. Google worked well for those.
Google ads is dead precisely because their search product is dead.
Ever since Google bought double click, their ads business has been their search business. They are the same product.
> their search product is dead
Do we have any evidence search volume is down?
Don't get me wrong, I'm an avid Kagi user. But I'm sceptical anyone outside tech is using anything other than Google.
I watch people search for PlatformName Login every single day because they don't know how URLs work.
Google isn't search. It's a crutch for people with too much time and money.
p.s. not google labs, not tpu's, but specifically search.
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Google search ain't dead at all: it became so good something silly like 99% of all the queries have to be answered by the Google AI before the very first "result". And for those who want more, there's the "continue this discussion with Gemini".
Now this may not be great for Google Ads (dunno about that) but Google search now works better than it ever did.
The AI summary is good enough often enough that it's tempting to rely on it. But, at least as of a week or two ago when I finally decided to block it, it still gets things badly wrong. (Sometimes seemingly inexplicably, but often because the results don't obviously contain an answer and yet the LLM is desperate to provide one.)
Try to double check the AI inline response. Got it wrong way too many times to trust it now.
How did you run campaigns on reddit? Reddit ads had the worst performance among all platforms I tried, literally zero conversion.
> When I hear "Google" I assume search, oof (sigh of relief).
If Google Ads is dead/dying the search is soon to follow...
Search died ages ago [1]. Ads dying is a direct consequence of that.
[1] https://www.wheresyoured.at/the-men-who-killed-google/
> Search died ages ago
You might want to let Google know that, because the number of searches on Google appears to continue to be growing massively:
https://searchengineland.com/google-5-trillion-searches-per-...
Those numbers look like the exact opposite of dead or dying to me. As does Google's growing stock price over the same time period.
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You should let Google know, given their business is really humming nowadays. Along with their stock price.
Google search died years ago already.
Gemini is the new search.
AI is not and cannot be search. Search is dead and has been for a few years now. Search has seemingly been subsumed into the LLM monster, considering how "fuzzy" queries have become (probably because they're not hitting the search algorithm without being massaged by "something else"). Significant portions of the web have been purged from Google's index, which means that neither Gemini nor Search can present those pages to users.
It's over. Sorry.
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But Gemini doesn't bring much visitors to your website. Also, optimizing for AI is even more "black magic" than normal SEO.
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Yep, I use it when I run out of free usage on ChatGPT or DeepSeek, or for simple queries, once ads show up I’ll block them or use something else
Without search ad revenue Google is dead.