Comment by whatisthiseven
4 days ago
Given the comparison was already made, what do you think of the Nuremberg laws, then? They were laws that, in as many words, made being a jew illegal in Germany and stripped them of their own citizenship status. That is just "the law being carried out", too, I guess.
ICE carried out it's mission without all the theatrics before, and deported more people in previous years. The theatrics, and the collateral damage to American citizens or those with actual temporary rights to be here, is the point with this current administration. A fair and apt comparison.
I have no skin in the game (being neither American nor immigrant), but you do realize how much of a stretch you've just made? Comparing Nuremburg to a sovereign country preventing illegal immigration (literally a crime everywhere on earth)? Are you serious!?
Deportation isn't prevention. It's inherently reactive. Securing a border has to be done at a border (as opposed to, for instance, at people's homes, churches, and schools).
So ICE murdering someone or deporting US citizens are simply "preventing illegal immigration".
I guess Nazi came to power because of ignorance and stupidity of the people around them.
So why isn't ICE carrying out its mission without all the theatrics, and why so poorly? Obama was able to deport 470,000, whereas Trump did somewhere around 600,000.
The laws are a pretense for action. The goal is racial fear-mongering by any means. Citizens are getting caught up in this and the administration doesn't care.
OP's comment was "why did no one stop the Nazi's". Because it didn't start with the gas chambers. It ended there. We can always make slippery slope arguments. But when that slope starts to look steep....OP's original question kind of answers itself.
People rationalize it, they downplay the atrocities, they don't care for the victims, "it's just the law", any excuse. Current citizens and illegal immigrants are thrown in overly packed cages, starved, no water, and unhygenic. I mean, how close to the gas chambers do we have to get? When they actually start stripping them of their possessions and clothes and wealth? When they start the labor camps?
OP's question is salient. Most people don't act, because it is never bad enough. It never will be. Until one day it finally is. That's why the Nazi's got so far.
Trump isn't going to gas immigrants. No, I don't think that will happen. But the slope looks steep.
Fair enough, but then it's the atrocious execution of enforcement that is to blame - not the laws themselves. Conversely to your own argument, you can't just do away with immigration laws as an option to stop ICE antics, that would be absurd.
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