Even where they are charged using coal? Please provide the research on that. Note that I'll be checking who funded and who performed the peer review, so please choose carefully before posting.
No warmup here. I've stated that much of the research favoring "clean" energy makes extremely generous assumptions about the validity of the data and allows for overly confident assertions mainly used for marketing. We know a lot less about the environment than you think, and even with what we do know, we can say for sure that when you include supply, manufacture, transduction, etc. you really can't call any method for power generation "clean" with current tech. It's all empty promises of new potential tech to be seen if we milk the tax payer. Just people with degrees in the field making money on selling pipe dreams to the public, and helping officials pump taxes into their investments. That's "clean" energy in a paragraph. It doesn't exist.
I'm an expert in the field and I can say EVs are much less pollutant then ICE cars.
Do give your best shot to debunk that.
Even where they are charged using coal? Please provide the research on that. Note that I'll be checking who funded and who performed the peer review, so please choose carefully before posting.
How would you put coal in EV?! They're electric, you plug them in!
You provide the research to prove ICE is cleaner.
Go in detail, I'll check everything:
- cost of extraction
- cost of byproducts
- cost of refining
- waste during refining
- cost of transporting oil to the pump (what do oil transport ships burn?)
- cost of burning that oil
- analysis on car age affecting emissions
- analysis of cheating like volkswagen
- full analysis of ICE car manufacturing
- Cost of wars to give us oil
- cost of weaponry needed to make oil producers behave and sell it at a decent price
- cost of aircraft carriers positioned around the world to enforce that.
- health cost of breathing in fumes.
- total cost of lead poisoning done by ICE cars until it was forbidden.
- health costs of noxes from diesel cars.
- costs of cars with dpf off or cat converter removed or just bad engines.
- Environmental impact of shale oil and water aquifers destruction and earthquakes.
- (reserve the right to add more after you provide the above)
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Just say the substantive part. The warmup has already reduced the impact, not helped.
No warmup here. I've stated that much of the research favoring "clean" energy makes extremely generous assumptions about the validity of the data and allows for overly confident assertions mainly used for marketing. We know a lot less about the environment than you think, and even with what we do know, we can say for sure that when you include supply, manufacture, transduction, etc. you really can't call any method for power generation "clean" with current tech. It's all empty promises of new potential tech to be seen if we milk the tax payer. Just people with degrees in the field making money on selling pipe dreams to the public, and helping officials pump taxes into their investments. That's "clean" energy in a paragraph. It doesn't exist.