Comment by vrosas

11 hours ago

When everyone got into baking early covid I couldn’t understand why no one was baking anything, like, good. No pizza or pie or cake or muffins or banana bread or even a damn focaccia. The world collectively just decided the end-all be-all of baking was… sourdough.

Sourdough is fantastic, I have two loaves finishing their overnight chill in my fridge right now, will bake them after dinner.

I was baking sourdough since before the pandemic, and will continue baking in the future. It's a bit of work, but it's not too much work and the results are pretty damn fantastic.

Focaccia though, if I baked that regularly I'd have to go back on a GLP-1. Focaccia taught me to read the seals on olive oil in the supermarket and actually pick the right one for the break.

It wasn't for no reason at all though. There were concerns about availability of yeast, which isn't used in sourdough. (Valid concerns or not, I have no idea.)

I do find it kind of wild how intimidating most people I know find baking. Get a food scale and follow the directions and you're good to go and will have something respectable and delicious. As with anything, you can dive deep and go extreme with it. But baking delicious food is not rocket science.

  • It is fun but it's also not universal. While every house and apartment I've lived in in the USA had an oven, the default in Japan is no oven. 1 to 3 burners, and possibly a broiler is the norm.

    If you want an oven you get microwave/oven combo.

    Might be similar in Korea? China? Taiwan? India?

  • Funny you'd say that. Other people say cooking is art, while baking is a science. No room for errors.

    • Cooking is art, baking is a very easy science (weight things and check the temperature), pastry is another thing. That requires talent, experience and a lucky star.

For one thing, yeast was in short supply, so if you wanted to bake regularly, sourdough was a good option if you could keep it going.

if it makes you feel better, we got into baking during covid and never baked sourdough once. we made pizza, cake, muffins, banana bread, regular bread, cornbread, etc. we just didn't post about it online ...

IMO it's because it's more challenging. I've baked everything you've listed and apart from pizza (which is also bread) it's all trivial to do. You just follow a recipe.

Bread is a totally different thing. Only four ingredients: a ground up grass seed, a mineral, a single celled fungus that lives in the dough, and water. The results range from complete disaster to the best thing you've ever eaten. It all depends on your technique.

That's why it has captivated so many and in particular men, as you can get really deep and geeky. There's only so far you can go with banana bread.

Maybe because the large time investment and trial+error in making good dough provided something to focus on when stuck inside.

> The world collectively just decided the end-all be-all of baking was… sourdough.

I can't speak for the world, but:

1. Good bread is really hard to come by in the United States. Unless you're going to a bakery twice a week[1], or your local grocery has a contract with one [2]... Your idea of 'bread' is probably mushy garbage that I would describe as more similar to 'cake'.

2. Sourdough is relatively easy to make. Flour, salt, water, starter, time[3].

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[1] Going anywhere to buy one item that is eaten or goes bad in three days is a big ask... Which is why this isn't a great option.

[2] The overwhelming majority don't, and when they do, they want $7 a loaf.

[3] Which a lot of people had plenty of.

  • Good bread is everywhere in major cities in the US. There are bakery sections at grocery stores and there are many local bakeries.