Comment by exitb
13 hours ago
It’s not great, but I’m not sure this should be framed as Omarchy-specific, when it’s a very common setup to add regular user to the docker group.
13 hours ago
It’s not great, but I’m not sure this should be framed as Omarchy-specific, when it’s a very common setup to add regular user to the docker group.
It is one thing to do things the risky way on your own system and another thing to ship an unsafe and unconventional default to your users.
For a single user, opinionated, modern, developer focussed OS, this is completely and utterly on par. Using docker as a developer without this is just plain annoying.
Just use podman, as the article suggests.
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Docker can be run rootless. It is so easy. No excuse for desktop distros to not do this by default. And that is why all major Linux distros are just as bad as Omarchy (Not recommending MacOS or Windows either as those are wildly worse)
Using Docker instead of podman is the first mistake and that is a distro decision (or a "chef" decision, in Omarchy parlance...)
*rootfull docker.
Rootless docker is perfectly fine.
>when it’s a very common setup to add regular user to the docker group.
As an official configuration? Or in random copy paste guides? The former is very different than the latter. It's not uncommon to disable sudo passwords, but it would be considered a serious security lapse if that were the default on some OS.
Adding your user to the docker group is in the official Docker install instructions, I wouldn't call that "random copy paste guides".
You mean the optional post install instructions, which is a separate page from the main install instructions, and contains a giant warning about the security implications?
https://docs.docker.com/engine/install/linux-postinstall
If the official sudo project had a guide on how to disable passwords, that shouldn't be taken as endorsement of having that as a default config.
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The methods are described on the official docker website, not just random blogs or SO pages. There are caveats about security, of course, but it's not truly discouraged.
I think there are notes that warn you about the consequences. And they have been written with sys admin in mind which knows about user groups and security.
You mean, just how it is on Windows?
Docker itself is such a massive security problem. Like it’ll punch through your firewall. Found out the hard way after a misconfigured redis was exposed to the web.
> but I’m not sure this should be framed as Omarchy-specific,
Adding the user to the docker group by default, out of the box, is Omarchy-specific.
EDIT: More accurately, was Omarchy specific, until they realized that it's not a good idea and changed it.
Exactly! I was also surprised by this — that's a sensible default for many people.
However, I agree that it should be opt-in. Docs should be more explicit about that too, they should warn users about risks of going with that option. That excerpt mentioned in the article was rather misleading.
This also seems like one of the more common things LLMs use to priv escalate themselves when not given root access, seems like a rather common misconfiguration.
It's absolutely not Omarchy-specific, Ubuntu has the exact same vulnerability out of the box, just with lxd instead.